Intype Team and SonyaEditor
In spare time, I just want to focus on Intype development, but there are many other tasks to do before I release alpha. Therefore I've configured :) an Intype Team with my close friends to share the tasks of preparing web-site, maintaining it's content and to plan some marketing strategies. There are 3 other people: Tomas Lopasovsky (Marketing Specialist), Ivan Centes (Web Developer) and finally beloved Lenka Mazancova (Content Maintainer). We will introduce ourselves on new Intype's website.
So yesterday, we started work on support web for Intype with blogging system, wiki and forums. I decided to use PHP platform, althought my favorite one is Ruby on Rails :) and to use existing solutions as many as possible.
WordPress is choice for blogging system now, but we are considering also Swell Blog. For Wiki we are considering DokuWiki or WikkaWiki. And for forums, there was no other choice than beautiful Vanilla.
Now, topic number two: SonyaEditor. "SonyaEditor" is name for my own editing component, that is going to fully replace Scintilla editing component. I decided to finish it before first alpha due to need of much stronger document model for faster and more reliable parsing (coloring with Scintilla was very slow due to it's own styling invalidation mechanism). I've started yesterday, and today I have working document model with undo/redo actions. I hope that this decision will not postpone the alpha release date.
posted by Martin Cohen at 8:16 AM
11 Comments:
I hope you guys can pull this off. TextMate for Windows would be a winner, because all semi-good editors are ... disappointing in the end.
I thought Scintilla was a good editing component. Let's hope you're not overdoing it writing your own edit component. Might have been better off focusing on the editor, but since we can't see anything yet ...
12:29 PM
A lot of Textmate's power is in scopes. In trying to mimick some of that power in my Lua scripts (http://caladbolg.net/scite.php), Scintilla can be somewhat of a hinderence. Also, Martin's got the right idea of reusing existing Textmate language definitions, and Scintilla couldn't do that easily at all.
12:43 PM
dylan: Scintilla is a good editor if you don't need some advanced features as new parser. Overloading existing code in Scintilla is as expensive as doing a new one. Sonya is in this state much faster with communication with parser, and thread-ready. And the next problem is Scintilla's styling model. Max of 255 styles that cannot be combined is unusable for this. So I decided to write my own editor. Maybe it will not be full-featured in alpha, but it will be very fast and easily extendable, and new programming new features will be much easier and faster. There is lots of reasons for NOT using Scintilla for Intype, I was confident of replacing it from the start. Maybe I write them in separate blog post.
mitchell: Programming snippets in C++ for Scintilla was easy, for better and faster control in binary code. What I was worrying about was need of an undo/redo for snippets, that was another reason for writing editor my way.
Anyway, development of Sonya goes pretty fast, Now I have document model with unicode 16 encoding, undo/redo, listeners hierarchy, thread-safe writing and reading from document. This week I'm going to start writing editor itself.
5:48 AM
Well, I guess I'll say: "Go Martin!" then :-) I can hardly wait.
12:51 AM
Will nested snippets work?
6:02 PM
branstrom: yep :)
2:01 AM
A look at http://macromates.com/wiki/Main/Suggestions could be inspiring - some things that TextMate hasn't done quite right, Intype could implement in a smart way. I think it's worth looking at stuff like this even in the beginning stages of development, just to avoid building yourself into a corner.
4:28 PM
http://macromates.com/wiki/Suggestions/TabsVersusPullDownMenu for example... I think a discussion needs to be held to make sure that switching between files will be as efficient in Intype as possible.
Couldn't you get that Vanilla forum up and running?
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